Pain That Wakes Us Up At Night

Hey guys! This is Dr. David, physical therapist of El Paso Manual Physical Therapy.

I want to talk to all about sleeping today.

Many of our clients report that they have pain at night.

Their symptoms get worse whenever they’re sleeping. They might wake up with really bad pain.

And because sleeping can be rough for people in pain sometimes >> they don’t get very good sleep…and it turns out to be a bad day the next day.

Then many people come in asking:

“Should I change pillows?”

“Should I change mattresses?”

“Is it me sleeping face down or on my side?”

“Should I change position?”

Some of the common complaints I hear are:

“My right shoulder hurts & when I lay on it, it hurts a lot. But when I turn over to my left side, it doesn’t get that much better.”

“I wake up so stiff and painful in the morning. I think I need to get a new mattress.”

And one of the most common ones I get is this:

“Is it bad that I sleep on my stomach? Somebody told me I should sleep on my back but I just can’t do that.”

Let’s get to the root of these two questions.

  1. Should I change my mattress and pillow?
  2. Should I change my sleeping position?

Mattresses

Mattresses come in all sorts of thicknesses, firm, soft, pillow top and memory foam. It goes on and on.

The type of mattress you need is going to depend on if something’s going on with you.

If you’re in pain right now, you might need a very soft mattress to contour to your body.

This is going make sure that you get in the best position possible so that you can keep your spine in a neutral position, so that it’s not aggravating a condition.

If you’re not really in pain, you just want to be comfortable and you can’t quite get comfortable, or maybe you have a really low-level pain that bothers you from time to time, then the answer’s a little bit different…

It’s going to depend on your body type.

If you’re larger in the hips, you know you got a big booty 🍑 or you got big hips, you got a small waist, then that shape is not going to fit very good on a hard mattress.

The problem is that when one of these people lies down is it side bends your spine because of the waist and hip difference and it can cause back pain if you’re there for a long time.

It’s a similar problem with someone with really wide shoulders because of the distance from their shoulder to their head.

Whenever they lay on their side, their head might hang off their shoulder in a funny position.

Pillow Talk

That brings me to talk about pillows.

So when you’re laying on your side, make sure you have a thick pillow that can fill up the gap between your shoulder and your head.

The goal is for your neck and the rest of your spine to be in a straight line as best as possible. It’s never going to be perfect but keep it as straight as you can.

Now if you’re a back sleeper, you want to consider the curves in your spine in this way.

Does your back pop out a lot this way or does your head go forward?

Is there a lot of space in the arc of your back?

If your back is this flat to where your back lines up with your head, you probably don’t need a pillow when you lie on your back.

You can get away with no pillow or a thin pillow. If you put a pillow, it’s gonna push your head forward a lot.

And if we’re talking pillows, I don’t really think it makes a huge difference what material or what thickness or which shape or special brand the pillow is.

It’s more about personal preference and making sure that you’re comfortable.

You might find that the five dollar pillow from Walmart or Target is comfortable for you.

I’ve tried changing pillows and mattresses…still no help…

Let’s say you’ve tried a bunch of pillows, you maybe change your mattress and you’re still having pain at night.

What the heck is going on?

Here’s what I think it is.

Let’s say you scraped your knee, it’s gonna hurt, right?

The pain doesn’t go away right away.

As time goes on, the wound heals. And it hurts less.

Well that’s looking at wounds on the skin.

You can see the progress really easily on skin but what if you have an injury on the inside of your body?

You can’t see the healing progress (or lack of healing).

Those tissues still have to go through a similar healing process where over time they close up, scar up, and they hurt less.

So let’s say you have a disc injury in your spine, in your neck or back or you have a rotator cuff tear in your shoulder, that stuff needs to heal for you to feel better.

But if you haven’t figured out what to do to make it heal, it’s always going to be injured.

It’s kind of like if you always pick at the scab on your knee. Then you never let the knee heal. It just bleeds again and then scars up and if you poke the scab again then it starts all over again with [inaudible 00:04:42]

Then you never let the knee heal. It just bleeds again and then scars up and if you poke the scab again then it starts all over again.

Now the pillow and the mattress and the sleeping position start become a lot less relevant at this point. Now you gotta fix the problem at the shoulder or the back.

Now you’ve got to fix the problem at the shoulder, neck or the back.

Now let’s address the question about sleeping posture.

Sleeping posture is so tricky because you’re not conscious when you’re asleep so how do you know what position you’re in all the time?

You can try to fall asleep in a certain position but it’s probably going to change.

Now don’t over complicate sleeping position. It’s not rocket science.

Find out what works best for you.

What’s the most comfortable position? Whatever hurts the least and is the most comfortable.

If you’re a stomach sleeper and you can get away with it, doesn’t hurt you, you don’t wake up with pain in the middle of the night or in the morning, go for it. It’s fine.

I hope this helps.

I hope you know a little bit more about how to handle pain with sleeping.

I’m gonna take a nap.

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Massage – Zarah Castro


Dr. David

Hey, welcome to the Stay Healthy El Paso Podcast. I'm your host Dr. David Middaugh, physical therapist and I'm the owner at El Paso Manual Physical Therapy. We've got an employee highlight today, here I am joined with our guest Zarah, she is our massage therapist, and I'm going to interview her today. She's going to give us some interesting perspectives on massage and the benefits of massage Say Hi Zarah!

Zarah

Hey guys, what's up?

Dr. David

So, I'm going to ask her some questions, and just to give you all a heads up, she is excellent in what she does. We have put in some extra training, but we wanted to get her perspective about what massage, and how she got into it, and why it's important for people to be getting massages. So, I'm going to start off with first question here. So, tell us where you're from and where you went to school.

Zarah

Okay, so I'm from El Paso, Texas, born and raised. I went to school at Eastwood high school, and I graduated from EPCC with my massage certification.

Dr. David

Fantastic and you've been with us here now for a couple of months, and you're gradually progressing. It's been fantastic to see you getting better and better. I wanted to find out from Zarah, how she got into massage and just to learn more about why she loves it so much, and what got her kick started into it. So, tell me Zarah, what got you into doing massage?

Zarah

I've always been interested in massage. I have experienced massage from my family and things like that. There is something healing about being touched by someone who really truly cares about you and wants you to feel better.

Dr. David

Yeah, definitely! It makes a big difference when you touch somebody, and do something to their muscles, joints, bones, and it makes a change in their body. It can make a dramatic effect, especially in your case, you're loosening up really stiff parts of their body. So, tell us a little bit about a specific client, or patient of yours that you've helped out in the past.

Zarah

I had a client who broke her wrist, she wasn't able to do the things she used to do, and she was a very independent person. Until she wasn't. She was having a hard time getting back to doing things she could do before. I would go and massage her wrist. And after a couple of sessions she was able to get back to doing things she could do before her surgery and all that.

Dr. David

Fantastic. I've seen massage clients with Zarah, we don't work on the same patient at the same time, but we do work on the same patient, within different appointments. One of the reasons why we hired a massage therapist like Zarah, here at El Paso Male Physical Therapy, is because as a manual therapist, we're working on the joints on the movement. It's combination of hands on work plus the exercise, but I would see patients that had some super stiff muscles, super stiff spots in their body that needed to be freed up, and I just didn't have the time to work on that.

I'm also not the best person to do it. But once we found out that a person like Zarah could help us out, it makes a dramatic difference and speeds up the recovery. Especially in muscles that are in the back, and the shoulders, and neck area, on the legs, and certain parts of the legs that can be contributing to things like knee arthritis, hip problems, other knee problems, back problems, neck issues, and shoulder issues.

I have seen such as work, do miracles on people, she loosens up the stiffest muscles I've seen. So, we're super happy to have her on the team here. Zarah, can you tell us something helpful that you often share with patients that they may not know.

Zarah

So sometimes patients come in with a neck problem, and I'll have to explain to them that I have to work muscles around that area as well. Because everything is connected. Sometimes they don't know that I have to work the muscles around that area as well. Not just the spot that they come in complaining about.

Dr. David

Yeah, I completely know what you mean. Because we get people in here for a foot problem, and then we end up working on their knee, hip, and back. Or they come in for a back problem, and we end up having to go down the hip, knee, and foot, or up in the neck. We have to go into the shoulder, and the elbow sometimes. So, I get you, when you have to work in different areas to treat the real problem to get the outcome that you want. So, are there any other tips that you think might be helpful for somebody looking to get a massage here in El Paso?

Zarah

Yeah, so if you're kind of skeptical about getting massage, because you have to get undressed, there's always something we can do to work it out. Some people get fully nude, other people leave underwear on, it doesn't matter. Really, what I always recommend is getting fully nude, just so that I can use my techniques to the best of my ability to work on the areas to give you the outcome that you want.

Dr. David

Great, thank you so much. So that's super helpful. Yeah, we have clients that aren't comfortable with taking everything off. And that's totally fine. It's to your individual preference and comfort level. We have some clients that just want to take off their shirt, or just roll up a pant leg. That's fine too. So, if you would like to schedule an appointment for a massage, you can reach out to us by calling us at 915-503-1314. And just ask about getting a massage, especially if it's for a specific problem, like back pain, neck pain or shoulder pain, or a knee problem as well. We can help to get some instant relief for those problems.

If you want to go to our website, you can visit www.epmanualphysicaltherapy.com and you'll find a tab at the top of the of the homepage there that says massage and you can learn more about that there as well. And if you mentioned our podcasts, we might have a special offer. So just mentioned that you heard us on the podcast, and whoever is answering the phone, at that time, they'll let you know of any podcast offers that we have going on. Thanks for listening. Please stay healthy. We'll talk soon. Bye bye.

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